MemberJan 22, 2018 at 4:45 am
But my only question is: if I get Architect, do I need to buy a theme apart from it from Thrive Architect? I've been thinking on making the combo of Thrive and Astra. Will this be a better solution or is it not really necessary?
What is the actual bennefit of getting Astra? Thanks!
MemberJun 28, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Well now nearly July and still no theme. Architect doesn't work properly with their own themes so kind of a killer really, spent a fortune on architect and a couple of themes and what works in one theme wont work in another. Will not renew and gone with Beaver builder which actually seems to work without fault.
MemberAug 3, 2018 at 8:11 pm
AnonymousGuestDec 3, 2018 at 7:30 pm
I\'m new to wordpress but will I be able to use Astra theme with a real estate listing feed like the IDX or DDF?
I\'m ready to move to a wordpress platform where I can make my own adjustment and customization.
Have you heard of Soldpress or Realtypress?
AnonymousGuestDec 17, 2018 at 1:27 pm
Newbies usually fail to locate the theme \”Templates\” that Thrive Themes (Architect) provide as it requires reading the instructions or viewing a video .. lol . In my humble opinion Thrive Architect, the Themes provided, and the Templates provided, along with their newest features as of Dec 2018, is everything you could want. A PS note: I think Thrive would do better if they promoted the Themes and Templates included more aggressively than they currently do. -Best to all, -hg
AnonymousGuestJan 24, 2019 at 10:00 pm
I have to dissent here for now.
With all the new features that have been added to Thrive Architect within the last six months, there is virtually nothing that you will not be able to do using one of \”their own\” themes and templates, both of which are huge time savers. The \”get everything\” bundle is what I use for $180/yr for unlimited self owned sites. Their newbie super theme due out in late 2019 might be great, but what they have now is great too.
AnonymousGuestJan 30, 2019 at 1:39 am
AnonymousGuestFeb 4, 2019 at 3:43 am
This is my take as a newbie to WordPress, Thrive Architect, and Astra. I spent a lot of time trying to figure things out and I don't know if I'm doing it right or not. When I bought Thrive Architect (one time charge – I'm not paying for upgrades) I didn't know what a theme was vs a template or much else but I thought some sort of website template options would come with TA or since they (TA) “works with all WordPress themes” I figured I'd find a theme I could use as a template and tweak it with TA. That doesn't really seem to be the case or I've missed something. So what I'm doing now is using Astra Free as my theme and then opening all my pages with TA and then in order to get rid of the crap on the page that can't be removed either with Astra or TA, I “change” the page template to a blank page which are really meant to be “landing” pages but whatever. It's all I could figure out. Of course doing it this way I have to build each page from nothing using TA. Not ideal but I can't find another way. And even when Themes 2.0 comes out they are going to want a yearly fee and by that time I'll be done with my site. Anyway do any of the pros (especially Adam) have a comment on my methodology? Am I doing this the best way? Thanks.
AnonymousGuestFeb 4, 2019 at 7:01 am
You obviously put a lot of thought and care into this answer, but I am having some difficulty following your meaning. Could you edit it for smoothness as this is such an important topic to so many, ivluding myself. Thanks for taking the time to reply. -hg
AnonymousGuestFeb 4, 2019 at 8:07 am
Thrive Architect does come with both themes and templates. More of each then you will probably ever need. With their recent updates as of Feb 2019, the need for an outside theme (in my opinion) is just not necessary.
AnonymousGuestFeb 4, 2019 at 10:53 am
Hello again I was asked to rephrase my question and experience a bit for better clarity. As of two weeks ago I didn't know anything about WordPress, Thrive, Themes, etc. I'm probably going to build 2 or 3 fairly simple websites over the coming years and therefore don't have an interest in products with monthly fees. Here's what I have done, which works, and just wondering if I made too much work for myself or if this is the approach others take when using Thrive Architect to build a new basic small business website.
I set up a WordPress account with Bluehost as the host. I selected Astra Free for my theme and then loaded Thrive Architect. For my home page and each new page I create, I open them using TA and replace the page that appears with a blank TA landing page template. Now I can add headers, a menu, and everything else needed using TA.
So that's all good but what I thought I was going to be able to do and couldn't is select a theme close to what I'd like my website to look like and then use TA to modify it. I couldn't do it. When I would load a page with TA there were elements that were part of the theme that couldn't be modified or deleted. Therefore as explained above I had to use the “change template” option that TA provides and select a blank template which then removed everything on the page and enabled me to start from scratch and begin building.
When selecting “change template” within TA there are a bunch of pre-made templates to choose from but they are all landing page templates and none of them would serve me as a good starting point for the website I want to build.
Thrive is working on creating a new Theme Builder which will make it unnecessary to use a 3rd party WordPress theme. It was projected to be released near the end of 2018 but hasn't happened and from what I can tell they haven't even released a Beta version. Thrive Architect is a content builder and from what I interpret from their website you will need both their Theme Builder and their Content Builder to be able to do everything without doing what I'm doing which is starting with blank pages. I assume there will be a bunch of website templates included with their upcoming Theme Builder. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to leave links here but if you go to the Thrive website and select Products>Thrive Themes>Sneak Peak there's a lot of information.
Final note: I'm totally new to all this and if I'm wrong about anything I hope the pros will comment on it. On the other hand I've done a ton of digging around trying to figure stuff out so for anyone else that is new (like me) and wants further clarification on anything I've said please reply.
AnonymousGuestFeb 11, 2019 at 6:15 am
Jeff, I have been doing the same things as you with using TA and creating pages from scratch and also having a WordPress theme installed (this was mainly for my blog page.) I do find it to be a hassle creating each page from scratch with TA when I set the page to a landing page. Although, the global elements definitely are very helpful so I can save something on one page and use it on another.
AnonymousGuestFeb 11, 2019 at 2:25 pm
Thanks Vikki. Especially for answering what none of the “advanced users” could answer. It's an important question as it relates to how the heck you get started. I've been doing it for all my pages and using global elements also. Just a heads up on another issue: Custom menus are not displaying correctly live when setting up inside a global header. They work outside the global header but not inside. I submitted a trouble ticket after trying everything I could and they acknowledged there is a problem (they were able to duplicate the problem) and they have turned it over to the developers. No fix yet but this was just a couple days ago.
AnonymousGuestFeb 16, 2019 at 7:23 am
Hi Jeff, If you are using the blank page template, you can essentially use any theme. The parts of a theme that cannot be changed with TA, could most likely be changed with some code though. Typically if you are using a theme to make the process faster, you should pick one the checks the following boxes: You like the header/footer layout out of the box, Theme is responsive, you like the general layout and flow. From there you can tweak thinks like fonts and color to your liking. As far as yearly costs for TA- I chose them specifically for the fact that they charge annually. It's a sustainable business model that ensures they have capital to keep improving the product.
AnonymousGuestFeb 16, 2019 at 7:49 am
I, like yourself as a solo startup, have no interest in coding..ugh. I want plug n' play to the greatest extent possible. Per all of the above comments I am going to look at the free Astra version to go with my Thrive Themes “all” plan.
P.S. To my understanding, when you purchase anything from Thrive Themes you get lifetime updates to those item(s). It's just the ticketing support you loose if you choose not to renew. -Best, -hg
AdministratorJul 30, 2019 at 11:58 am
Just to update this post, here we are in the middle of 2019 and I will stick with my advice from last year.
Thrive no longer sells their themes because they are so outdated and are a dead end. If you choose to use them, it will be a good amount of effort to change later, so they don't sell them.
They instead are making a theme builder to completely replace all their themes, but this is taking a very long time.
While you can use Thrive Architect to make headers and footers, it's not advisable because they lack proper schema. Google uses schema to understand your website. Not having proper schema is fine for pages that you are not after google rankings, but if being visible in google searches matters to you, it's not advisable.
There are many great theme alternatives in the meantime. My preference is Astra, but there are many others such as GeneratePress and OceanWP.
MemberOct 21, 2019 at 12:56 pm
Adam, what do you recommend for ensuring that proper schema is included when building a site with a theme / page builder combo? You said that Architect lacks schema, and Elementor lacks it as well. So what's the easiest solution? (ideally that does *not* require learning schema and then adding it via a code injection plugin (or soimething like Custom Attributes in Elementor)?
MemberMay 19, 2020 at 5:16 pm
have you written more on how schema works in various theme builder/page builder products? I really want a custom header on my website, but is that going to create a problem with the schema? I don't know if this is still a problem or if the combination of thrive architect and theme builder solves this issue but I haven't found anywhere that people are talking about this. I only happened to come across this forum to even realize it could be an issue.
- This reply was modified 10 months, 3 weeks ago by jay.
MemberAug 13, 2019 at 8:36 pm
I am also confused on how to build the site. Based on Adam's course, I've installed Astra theme. Now what? The course doesn't go beyond that. Do I install an Astra starter website or do I use TA page templates and just move things around? I'm not seeing a good blog format. Seems like Jeff is just using blank templates. Do the Astra starter websites only work with other builders?
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